Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 09:44 am
Is it better to be the girl who turns heads, or the girl who doesn't?
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 06:47 am (UTC)
depends on what the girl wants out of life...
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 06:54 am (UTC)
Why not be both?
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 07:00 am (UTC)
Ummm.. they're contradictory?

Plus, there's really no choice in the matter...

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Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 06:59 am (UTC)
I think turning heads is more fun than not, but I'm not a woman, so I can't bezaktly say.
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 11:31 am (UTC)
sure ya can - you think we don't check out guys, too? We're just (generally) more discrete about watching the fine ass in front of us :-) (I try to be discrete, at least, but Ashes still catches me and teases me about checking out particularly scrumptious gothbois and punkgrrls)

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Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 07:01 am (UTC)
It so depends on whose heads are turning. But then, working in NYC, I'm quite jaded (and often disgusted) by those heads . . .
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 07:04 am (UTC)
That would depend on which head you want to tur.. ummm

Depends on what kind of person it is.. Shallow, empty, stupid.. turn heads.. because a glance is all that they will get...

Intelligent, funny.. Who cares.. the people who matter the most will still catch your eye..

Yeah right.. Thats about as big a load as i've ever written..

Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 07:11 am (UTC)
This girl I'm seeing, she's this librarian and she's SUPER HOT! I mean she looks like she stepped out of a magazine, it's ridiculous, but the problem is that she's smart. And when you look like she does, you don't attract smart men. This sounds arrogant, but I've been close to her for a while and I see the guys that come knocking and I have to agree with her, brains aren't on the forefront. I'm not saying "oh woe is her, she has beautiful flesh, pity her." But there is something to be said for raw physical beauty actually being a problem for her in some cases, she likes to hang out with geeky people, but they can't get over the fact that she is gorgeous is the upshot of all of this.
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 07:20 am (UTC)
Dear gods, yes! If you're halfway attractive, and like brainy men, you don't stand a chance. Brainy men get around an attractive woman and then do such a good job convincing themselves that "she wouldn't be interested in me" that they never work up the nerve to ask us out. Sheesh! I'd rather date date a brainy, mature man than some shallow DeCaprio wannabe any day.

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Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 07:12 am (UTC)
I've turned heads in my time - looking odd one way or another, wearing a skirt up O'Connell Street, having bright red hair.

And I've melded quietly into the background at times, at least as much as someone of my size can (I'm not that tall, I just carry an impression of size).

I think I like them both, and I think I pick them based on my mood. I'd not like to be missing either one.
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 07:30 am (UTC)
This recalled a conversation I had with the ever-lovely and perfect Copeland Baker in my highschool.

I told her that she was pretty and I was smart, and someday we would both be old and I would still be smart.

I got two days detention for that comment.
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 08:25 am (UTC)
Heh. I've used that one (was a late bloomer)....
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 09:30 am (UTC)
That's wonderful. Sounds like it was worth two days detention.
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 08:02 am (UTC)
I think in general it is better to not turn heads, but at the same time, to have to ability to turn heads when you want to. I got such a kick out of dressing up at Clarion once the last week, wearing girly clothes when all along before that I'd been jeans and t-shirts/tanks pretty much the whole time. So, while I liked turning heads then, it still freaks me when guys comment and I'm *not* dressed up. Or when guys check me out, esp the one time I'd walked home in the rain and must have looked like a drowned rat. Boys make no sense sometimes. Well, most of the time.
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 10:22 am (UTC)
I got whistled at once, walking in the pouring rain. I wasn't wearing any thin or revealing clothing, so it wasn't that. I had on heavy knit shirt, and dark cotton skirt, walking barefoot carrying my boots...the skirt did cling to the legs quite a bit, but I can't think I made a very enticing figure. I decided they were responding more to my enthusiasm (I was having a *fabulous* time, and I put off really "pretty" energy when I'm in a good mood) than to my drenched state.
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 08:03 am (UTC)
Speaking as a girl who's never turned heads, I can say that it would be nice once in a while. I can understand that being noticed on the street might get frustrating (because of all the pigs out there), but being invisible really does suck. I think I was cast in the Wallflower Girl mode when I was made, and there's not much I can do about that. I've tried before, and I gave up when it did no good.

And, while many people say that physical appearance isn't key to their finding someone attractive, they have to have *noticed* that someone in order to develop an opinion of the someone's attractiveness. Did that make any sense?

I'm not sure how much of my Wallflower Girl nature is looks and how much is personality (I know it's some mix of the two, of course). I'm certainly not conventionally pretty, and I have a reserved, fairly shy personality in most public situations. Those two conspire against me, I fear.
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 08:25 am (UTC)
I hear that physical attractivness isn't important to people, and I feel shallow, because it is important to me. I can't see a wonderful personality across a room, or maybe that should read, I can't see all wonderful personalities from across a room, because some do shine. Some people look great regardless of their meat, some people are overlookable despite very attractive meat. As the amount of time I've known a person increases, the importance of their appearance decreases, because I have more to go on, and it's mostly a factor in love and lust. I could be great friends with and love someone whose meat is terribly unattractive, but for love and lust, it's a factor.

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Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 08:36 am (UTC)
The answer depends entirely on what the girl wants out of it. If she wants to be noticed and hit upon, then it's better to be the girl who turns heads. If she'd rather be invisible, then it's better to be the one who doesn't turn heads. Sounds obvious, right?

Now, if you were asking whether I personally am more interested in the one who turns heads, then no. I'm more interested in the quiet girl sitting in the corner, usually, than the one who's in the middle of a circle of people and obviously the center of attention.

(Didn't we have this whole Julia vs. Capri discussion already?)

cheers,
Phil
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 08:45 am (UTC)
This isn't Julia/Capri, though... this is just me.

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Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 09:01 am (UTC)
Depends on if I'm trying to turn a head or not I guess. Usually I'm ok with just fading into the background, but sometimes I just want to be *noticed* either by someone specific or just in general.

When I'm in one frame of mind and the other occurs (want to turn heads and don't, or want to be ignored and get noticed) it tends to irritate me.
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 09:25 am (UTC)
How about the girl who doesn't care whether heads turn or not?
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 09:27 am (UTC)
It's better to be the girl who looks in the mirror and says, "I'd do her."
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 10:34 am (UTC)
Heh. I'm so never gonna be that girl.

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Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 10:55 am (UTC)
I don't generally turn heads on the street, or actually, never.
I do occasionally want to, and dress for it, and generally succeed, but more often than not, it's when I'm entirely not trying to at all. I'll be at a meeting getting all excited about some scientific discussion and suddenly realize that half the reason all these guys are talking to me is because I'm female. Luckily I usually don't notice till after the fact. Generally I turn heads because of attitude, because I'm happy about something entirely on my own. And sometimes it can be really annoying to get hit on in those situations when that was not what I was intending at all. Because how can I tell whether they took what I was studying seriously or not if they're hitting on me?

At least these days when I'm in the opposite situation of wanting to attract attention it usually works. Still surprises me every time though, because it never used to, (5-10 years ago) and I don't see how I've really changed, but, whatever.
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 11:41 am (UTC)
it's better to be what you're happy with - and I love being the girl who can do either. It's all in the mood and the clothes.

of course, sometimes it's unintentional, like when I run out of clean jeans n' tshirts, and do my laundry in a cocktail dress - then when striding through the lounge past two D&D games and the video gamers while carrying the laundry soap, the girls all nod understandingly, and the guys watch and comment - or turn red.

but uasually, I get noticed because I *like* to be noticed. Going invisible's hard for me because I usually don't want to be.
Wednesday, August 14th, 2002 01:11 pm (UTC)
either option is better than being the girl whose head turns...