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Wednesday, June 26th, 2002 03:21 pm
http://www.msnbc.com/news/772714.asp

They finally ruled the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional.

Hell yeah.
Wednesday, June 26th, 2002 12:33 pm (UTC)
Not to rain on your parade, but, well, I'm going to rain on your parade. :)
Given the history of the 9th Circuit's revolving door, it's most likely going to the Supreme Court anyway, but I can't say whether they'll choose to hear it.
Still, it's a small victory for the removal of a relatively innocuous God reference.
Wednesday, June 26th, 2002 12:38 pm (UTC)
Well, you know what Alastair Cooke said:

"It used to be said that you had to know what was happening
in America because it gave us a glimpse of our future.
Today, the rest of America, and after that Europe, had
better heed what happens in California, for it already
reveals the type of civilisation that is in store for all
of us."

So, hopefully this is a glimpse of things to come. God less America, here we come!
Wednesday, June 26th, 2002 12:47 pm (UTC)
California, huh? Well, if there are more Asians in store for the rest of the country, I can't say I'm disappointed. :)

I suppose the most difficult project will be to rub out all the 'In God We Trust' words from all our stamped coins. ::Chuckle::

Three cheers for Godlessness!
Wednesday, June 26th, 2002 12:46 pm (UTC)
That just did my heart SO much good. That subtle presure to "conform to the right way of thinking" that the majority of Christians take. That - "Well EVERYONE believes this anyway so DUH it should be there." Drives me BUG nuts. Huzzah for a step towards actually respecting my rights!ΓΌ
Wednesday, June 26th, 2002 12:58 pm (UTC)
Amen to that!

I actually refused to say the Pledge from age 10 onward. I'm a little rabble-rouser.
Wednesday, June 26th, 2002 01:17 pm (UTC)
What I found most interesting was that it was a 1954 Act of Congress that added the "under God."

I do agree that the "under God" ought to be removed. Clearly, it does violate separation of church and state as defined by the Constitution. However, I have no problem with the Pledge ("under God" removed) as a generalized, widely used declaration of citizenship.

One reason I will always have patriotic feelings for the US, even if I move abroad again some day--here, the freedom of citizens is defined by laws that prohibit certain things (murder, speeding, insider trading, etc.) (i.e., if we don't say you may not, you may). Many (most? I don't have statistics) countries do the opposite. Citizens are *given* certain specific rights by their government (i.e., if we don't say you may, you may not). Subtle but important difference.
Wednesday, June 26th, 2002 01:26 pm (UTC)
woo! i'm doing a little dance in my chair, and just had conversations with co-workers about school experiences with the pledge.
Wednesday, June 26th, 2002 04:25 pm (UTC)
So, get rid of the words "Under God". No biggie (on the assumption that the Supreme Court doesn't spin this decision around).

Wednesday, June 26th, 2002 08:07 pm (UTC)
There's no need to fear! Undergod is here!
when narrow-minded fools appear
and break the laws that they should fear
and frighten all who see or hear
The voice of reason in their ear
here comes UnderGod! UnderGod! UnderGod! UnderGod!

speed of lightning, roar of thunder
our rights have now been torn asunder
no more UnderGod. UnderGod!

when in this world the headlines read
of those who think it's saving we need
who see only their God in the lead
to right this wrong with blinding speed
here comes UnderGod! UnderGod! UnderGod! UnderGod!

speed of lightning, roar of thunder
our rights have now been torn asunder
no more UnderGod. UnderGod!



Thursday, June 27th, 2002 05:15 am (UTC)
Oh, you *so* rock. :)
Thursday, June 27th, 2002 07:15 am (UTC)
awww. Ya make me blush.